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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

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  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  never a jw

  My comparing you to a JW has merit because you dismissed my evidence without a thoughtful response.

  My premise all along is that Sam Harris in his podcast did not adhere to the objective analysis and decorum expected of intellectuals and scholars. I doubt he even attempted that.
  

  Sam never proved that Donal Trump is a clown or a jackass, even metaphorically speaking. He, however, has a good chance of demonstrating that Trump is an unprincipled business man, a misogynist, a narcissist, a shallow, unlettered and uninformed person with no political savvy for public office, especially the presidency. But he is not a clown or a jackass. That's just plain loaded ad hominem,
  

  Regarding Sam's implication that Trump is a pathological liar, doesn't pass the test. He may be an unprincipled man who lies as needed when he wants to advance his goals, but not a pathological liar..

  An "awful person" is just a broad, vague and useless description that can not be subjected to any objective analysis. "awful" can only belong in the opinion category.
  
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  Election Post-Mortem

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  i'm sure many people, republicans included, are shocked at the results of the 2016 presidential election.

  really, wtf!.

  the polls were wrong and although it's tempting to blame voter suppression and fbi interference, that would just avoid looking at the real issues for the loss.

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  Nathan,

  Interesting how Hillary looks like an angel in that Newsweek cover, while Trump looks like a raving lunatic in the other cover. Reminds me of how the Watchtower shows images of JW's looking like angels and worldly people like the devil. Propaganda at its best....worst
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

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  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  Cofty,

  You are thin-skinned too, and just like Sam, resort to hyperbole, even though you and Sam more often than not come across as the most objective intellectuals. Your arguments are much better when you stay above the crowd.

  Sam could have easily lead the audience to conclude that Trump is a jackass, a clown, an awful man and a liar, without saying it. That course of action is more elegant and persuasive. Instead he became like most other critics who preach to the choir and alienate the Trump supporters who are likely to withdraw their support.

  Village Idiot,

  Yes
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  Vidiot,

  No argument there.That's the level at which you and I argue, and most people here. However, that's not the Sam Harris that I had known before he took interest in Donald Trump.
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  Cofty,

  Now you are beginning to sound like a JW when he/she is challenged. Is this ad hominem?
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

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  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  never a jw

  Oh I forgot "the most powerful clown"
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  "absolute jack ass"

  "liar that can only be found in a mental hospital"

  "an awful person"

  I dislike Trump just as much as you and Harris do. I may have taken a tangent perhaps, but I am just rather surprised that Sam argued in parts of the podcast more like the people he often debates.
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  never a jw

  "He likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls"

  False analogy. Trump is not alone "flying an airplane". There's a cabinet, there's advisors, there's congress, there's a supreme court, there's powerful special interests groups, there's other countries' governments, there's the press, there's 320 million people who will help him or remove him way before the plain crashes. No, we are not dying in an airplane without a pilot.
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  never a jw

  For example

  listen after minute 20
  
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  Sam Harris on Trump - The Most Powerful Clown

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  harris is at his incisive best in his latest podcast.. he likens the situation to being on an aeroplane where the pilot has died and somebody with no experience of flying has grabbed the controls.

  we should all be committed to his success.

  prize for the best line goes to - "caligula with a iphone".. even if you love trump and despise harris you should appreciate his clarity.. waking up with sam harris....

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  never a jw

  I may have to stand corrected on this particular podcast, but in previous podcasts about Trump, Sam has used ad hominem, hyperbole and mildly fallacious ways of argumentation.I am quite OK with many of us doing that, but I hold Sam to a higher standard because he uses very high standards in other critiques when Trump is not the subject. I can echo Sam's sentiments about Trump quite easily, I just believe that Sam has allowed his feelings to interfere with his almost flawless rational form of argumentation.